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  How far do we get away from 1914

  by PimoElder in

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  how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

  they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

  with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

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  joey jojo

  JW kids born around 1995 don't see the 1914 generation in the same way us older ones did. These ones are now almost in their 30's and have families of their own. In the meantime, the older generations have long reconciled the change and performed whatever mental gymnastics they required to help them cope with the change.

  The GB just has to wait for the older generations, along with their inconvenient memories to die and it's a clean slate all over again for the org.

  Good to see scholar back again, always nice to have some comedy relief once in a while. 😀
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  Some developements toward microchipping humans

  by Kosonen in

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  many people took the covid vaccine and the boosters.

  looks like those controlling such world wide campaigns have more in store for the humanity.

  the powerful organization world economic forum says that the covid pandemic has started the digitalization and surveillance of everything.

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  joey jojo

  Digitalisation and surveillance started a long time ago. We all freely gave our information away without understanding the consequences just by signing up to platforms like facebook, or browsing google.

  We dont really need microchips because we already have these:

  https://www.wareable.com/fashion/best-smart-rings-1340
  
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  Rutherford and dinosaurs

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sorry if this has been discussed before but on quora someone asked if rutherford had said that dinosaurs had been taken to venus .

  i assume that the questioner had heard it somewhere and wanted to check it out.

  i've never come across this before is it true ?

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  joey jojo

  "It will be very apparent to readers of Judge Rutherford's book Creation that the present condition of Venus is about what the earth was prior to the Flood, and it is significant that some astronomers have advanced the idea that animals like the dinosaurs that once roamed this planet are now finding Venus a happy place in which to live.”

  The temperature of Venus can reach close to 500 degrees C and the atmospheric pressure is 90 times more than on Earth.

  Noah must have had some awesome tan lines under his sheepskin t-shirt.
  
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  Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

  some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

  fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

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  joey jojo

  The real mystery is how people still believe there was a literal, global flood, given the overwhelming evidence that it didnt happen.

  Science: form a theory, follow evidence,test it, invite others to criticise, modify understanding to form a sound conclusion.

  Belief: form a conclusion first, look for any information that supports your belief, ignore everything else.
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  I'm Back--Blondie

  by blondie in

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  yes, i am posting again.

  i could not for awhile technologically and it is now fixed thanks to simon.

  thanks, simon!

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  joey jojo

  Welcome back Blondie.

  I recently researched a topic and mostly used an old watchtower commentary of yours from this site. So- thanks :).
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | February 2022 Trust in Jehovah ...We really meant ''the Governing Body''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower—study edition | february 2022. study article 6. do you trust in jehovah’s way of doing things?.

  15 as the end of this system of things draws near, we need to trust in jehovah’s way of doing things as never before.

  during the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical.

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  JW literature trains believers to substitute Jehovah + Jesus for the Governing Body.

  As one Elder said to me, "to question the governing body is to question Jehovah- and I won't stand for it!".
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  the cheap trick for believers...

  by inbetween in

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  yesterdays wt study (wt january 2022) stressed the issue, to set aside time to deepen the relationship to god.. in order to strengthen one`s faith, it was encouraged to ask god anytime for basically anything.

  and each time god answers your prayers the faith grows.. now, each one of us has wishes, desires, hopes.

  some naturally will fail, some will come true.

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  Jws are tricked into believing they are the main focus of a great universal struggle. It makes them feel special.

  This earth will continue spinning, completely indifferent to how anyone, or any group feels.
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  4 New GB Helpers

  by Reservations in

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  apparently 4 new gb helpers as per reddit.

  1) paul gillies.

  2) johnathan smith.

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  joey jojo

  Helpers are the organisations answer to succession planning. It goes in hand with the recent point that all anointed will be gone before armageddon.
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  The Governing Body KNOWS what Russia is going to do.

  by pistolpete in

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  gb sanderson reminding the member what the russian war is all about.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/tng8ys/dont_even_know_what_to_say/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3.

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  joey jojo

  Had a chat with a dub the other day and she was telling me all about how the GB knew beforehand that Russia was going to go to war. She has herself convinced this is it.

  I mentioned that world war 2 was pretty bad and it didnt lead to armageddon and she informed me that armageddon couldnt occur until after the U.N. had been formed. Well, the U.N. was formed in 1945 but I guess thats a debate for another day.

  I get the feeling that the rank and file dubs are excited about whats happening right now. They always have to make it more than what it is and won't accept that its just another event in a long string of events that will never stop while humans exist. War, pandemics, poverty, crime, the list goes on.

  I know the war in Ukraine could escalate into something more dangerous and will most likely have repercussions for decades, but if it dies down, after a few years, will the dubs remember how certain they were it was the end?
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  Miniimizing 'Punishment' - marrying a non-JW

  by doasthouwilt in

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  2. relationships

  i’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.

  our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.

  once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.

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  joey jojo

  If the elders find out you have been living at her place before you were married and you were both alone, I doubt she will be allowed to remain a pioneer at the very least. More likely she will be reproved, maybe disfellowshipped depending on the circumstances of your living arrangements prior to marriage.

  An active pioneer secretly marrying a worldly guy would almost be an embarrassment to the local cong. and they may want to set an example for others.

  Thats short term. If she keeps going to meetings and shows everyone that you married for love, eventually she will probably be able to pioneer again.